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I always find it weird when guys refer to girls as “females”. I can’t help but read it in a Ferengi voice.
“Females and finances don’t mix. Rule of Acquisition 94.”
My favorite thing about that is that, in DS9, a female ferenghi goes on to be the most successful leader of their people ever.
Meh, it’s a thing in the military because female military members are segregated and have different uniforms.
A woman in the military isn’t described as that, they’re a “femal soldier/sailor/marine” and all their uniforms, regs, standards, and housing comes with that prefix.
Even tho “female” descriptor comes first it’s to ingrain that above all else they’re a service member.
It’s about what the noun is.
It took a couple years till I stopped slipping, and I understand why a service member would use it. That shit gets so beat intto you that you really don’t even notice it. So when you get let out into the civilian world, it’s hard to break the habit. Those people would appreciate being called out that what they’re doing is weird for civvies tho.
But yeah…
99% of the people using it are just fucking weird.
“Female <job title>” isnt at all as bad as just… “female”, the prior is a clarifying adjective, the latter is using it as a descriptive noun.
Like if I say “Female Officers suffer from above average sexual harassment” that statement isnt a big deal.
If I say “You are a beautiful female” to a woman though, it sounds disgusting.
I mean literally just compare these two basic statements.
“Go hand this package to that Female Officer over there” (This just distinguishes the Female Officer from the Male Officers probably standing near her)
vs
“Go hand this package to that Female over there” (this sounds like you are an alien visiting earth and talking to me)
I think it’s as weird and antisocial as the next guy to call women “females” but I also think it’s weird that it’s treated like not receiving approval from women is the worst possible thing that can happen to a man when implying that women need male approval is obviously sexist
Personally I think that using sexual desirability as a point of ridicule is pretty toxic regardless of who is doing it and it’s not going to help to solve the problem, but “not receiving approval from women” kind of is the worst possible thing that can happen for a lot of them, at least in their minds. The whole “men and females” thing has its roots in incel culture and they’re well known to obsess over the tiniest facets of their interactions with women to the point of nausea, looking for any excuse to condemn women for not being attracted to them. They see not receiving approval from women as the ultimate condemnation of not only women, but also themselves. It’s why people use it as an insult - it’s effective against them.
I really don’t think making this about incels makes sense and I’ll demonstrate why:
Woman calls me unfuckable -> I’m an incel
I call a woman unfuckable -> I’m an incel
There’s little logical consistency around the topic and it’s kind of just become a loophole to cancel morality when it comes to attacking men. I’m really careful with my wording to avoid triggering this response because if I do, people stop processing what I’m saying and they start dogpiling.
idk, some incels will certainly act like not getting approval from women was the worst possible thing that could happen to them, and then go and do something much worse to others
yeah but this post isn’t about incels. posts like these shoot strays at all men
That’s how generalizations and language work. It’s ALWAYS implied that it’s not ALL of a group. Unless someone says “literally all men”, and then whatever that person is saying is wrong because there’s no way it’s literally all.
So good news, is you’re not like that, it’s not about you.
Awesome. So when other racists like yourself talk about “Blacks” or “Mexicans,” that’s fine because we can just assume you don’t mean “ALL Mexicans are rapists,” right?
my entire point is that generalizations are harmful lmao
Not all generalisations
They’re pretty much the only group I know of that uses female that way on purpose, but I suppose we could just throw in all misogynists and my comment would still apply
I think you’re not really getting what I’m saying. See my other comment:
It’s not about that. It’s their choice of insult. Saying “people who voted for Trump are retarded” doesn’t make it not ableist just because you specified it’s about Trump voters. Catch my drift?
Equating moral corruption to sexual undesirability is just stupid. It implies the inverse too, that sexually undesirable people are morally corrupt, which is actually a pretty huge problem in society. It also implies that men need validation from women which is just false.
Well, I think we can agree on one thing. I guess I don’t really get what you’re saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, I’ve been pretty clear… and nobody else is having trouble understanding what I’m trying to say. is it possible that on some level you kind of like, don’t want to understand?
While I agree, it specifically says “those men,” so I think the idea is that men who see women as wombs or genes or whatever should also expect to be viewed with the same lens
It’s not about that. It’s their choice of insult. Saying “people who voted for Trump are retarded” doesn’t make it not ableist just because you specified it’s about Trump voters. Catch my drift?
Ah I see what you’re saying, yeah agreed. I think I too quickly read your comment, cheers
